Jimmy Carter breaks with Southern Baptists over the status of women

July 27th, 2009 Source: www.harisingh.com

July 15, 2009 - I  have been a practicing Christian all my life and a deacon and Bible teacher for many years. My faith is a source of strength and comfort to me, as religious beliefs are to hundreds of millions of people around the world. So my decision to sever my ties with the Southern Baptist Convention, after six decades, was painful and difficult. It was, however, an unavoidable decision when the convention's leaders, quoting a few carefully selected Bible verses and claiming that Eve was created second to Adam and was responsible for original sin, ordained that women must be "subservient" to their husbands and prohibited from serving as deacons, pastors or chaplains in the military service.

This view that women are somehow inferior to men is not restricted to one religion or belief. Women are prevented from playing a full and equal role in many faiths. Nor, tragically, does its influence stop at the walls of the church, mosque, synagogue or temple. This discrimination, unjustifiably attributed to a Higher Authority, has provided a reason or excuse for the deprivation of women's equal rights across the world for centuries.

At its most repugnant, the belief that women must be subjugated to the wishes of men excuses slavery, violence, forced prostitution, genital mutilation and national laws that omit rape as a crime. But it also costs many millions of girls and women control over their own bodies and lives, and continues to deny them fair access to education, health, employment and influence within their own communities.

The impact of these religious beliefs touches every aspect of our lives. They help explain why in many countries boys are educated before girls; why girls are told when and whom they must marry; and why many face enormous and unacceptable risks in pregnancy and childbirth because their basic health needs are not met.

In some Islamic nations, women are restricted in their movements, punished for permitting the exposure of an arm or ankle, deprived of education, prohibited from driving a car or competing with men for a job. If a woman is raped, she is often most severely punished as the guilty party in the crime.

The same discriminatory thinking lies behind the continuing gender gap in pay and why there are still so few women in office in the West. The root of this prejudice lies deep in our histories, but its impact is felt every day. It is not women and girls alone who suffer. It damages all of us. The evidence shows that investing in women and girls delivers major benefits for society. An educated woman has healthier children. She is more likely to send them to school. She earns more and invests what she earns in her family.

It is simply self-defeating for any community to discriminate against half its population. We need to challenge these self-serving and outdated attitudes and practices - as we are seeing in Iran where women are at the forefront of the battle for democracy and freedom.

I understand, however, why many political leaders can be reluctant about stepping into this minefield. Religion, and tradition, are powerful and sensitive areas to challenge. But my fellow Elders and I, who come from many faiths and backgrounds, no longer need to worry about winning votes or avoiding controversy - and we are deeply committed to challenging injustice wherever we see it.

The Elders are an independent group of eminent global leaders, brought together by former South African president Nelson Mandela, who offer their influence and experience to support peace building, help address major causes of human suffering and promote the shared interests of humanity. We have decided to draw particular attention to the responsibility of religious and traditional leaders in ensuring equality and human rights and have recently published a statement that declares: "The justification of discrimination against women and girls on grounds of religion or tradition, as if it were prescribed by a Higher Authority, is unacceptable."

We are calling on all leaders to challenge and change the harmful teachings and practices, no matter how ingrained, which justify discrimination against women. We ask, in particular, that leaders of all religions have the courage to acknowledge and emphasize the positive messages of dignity and equality that all the world's major faiths share.

The carefully selected verses found in the Holy Scriptures to justify the superiority of men owe more to time and place - and the determination of male leaders to hold onto their influence - than eternal truths. Similar biblical excerpts could be found to support the approval of slavery and the timid acquiescence to oppressive rulers.

I am also familiar with vivid descriptions in the same Scriptures in which women are revered as pre-eminent leaders. During the years of the early Christian church women served as deacons, priests, bishops, apostles, teachers and prophets. It wasn't until the fourth century that dominant Christian leaders, all men, twisted and distorted Holy Scriptures to perpetuate their ascendant positions within the religious hierarchy.

The truth is that male religious leaders have had - and still have - an option to interpret holy teachings either to exalt or subjugate women. They have, for their own selfish ends, overwhelmingly chosen the latter. Their continuing choice provides the foundation or justification for much of the pervasive persecution and abuse of women throughout the world. This is in clear violation not just of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights but also the teachings of Jesus Christ, the Apostle Paul, Moses and the prophets, Muhammad, and founders of other great religions - all of whom have called for proper and equitable treatment of all the children of God. It is time we had the courage to challenge these views. --

- Jimmy Carter was president of the United States from 1977 to 1981. 

Comments

NO DOUBT THERE IS

NO DOUBT THERE IS DISCRIMINATION IS STILL IN PRACTICE WITH WOMEN.IN SOME FAITHS THEY ARE DEPRIVED OF THEIR RIGHTS IN EVERY SPHERE. THERE ARE SOME REASONS BY NATURE FEMALES HAVE NOT STRONG HEALTH.MALES HAS DOMINATION OVER FEMALES. SOME TIMES IT LOOKS LIKE THAT WOMEN ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR WOMENS' DISCREMATION. IN SIKHISM WOMEN HAS ALL RIGHTS AND PRIVILEDGES ARE EQUAL TO WOMEN AND MEN BUT IN PRACTICAL LIFE THEY ARE STILL BEHIND. IN USA NO DOUBT BARACK OBAMA IS FULLY CAPABLE FOR THE POST OF US PRESIDENT. BUT IN MY OPINION MRS. HILLARY CLINTON LOST THE POST BEING A WOMEN AND US HAVING NO RECORD OF WOMEN PRESIDENT.IN US ALSO WOMEN GOT THE RIGHT OF VOTE ONLY FIVE DECADES AGO STILL ITS' INDIPENDENCE SINCE 1776. IT IS THE WISDOM OF OBAMA THAT HE HAS OPPOINTED MINISTER OF STATE TO HILLARY BEING HIS POLITICAL RIVAL FOR THE CANDIDATURE OF PRESIDENT IN DEMOCRATIC PARTY

Just a Friendly Advise

Please try to stay focus at the feet of Guru Ji, Our objective is to destroy "MAYA" she becomes our friend only to destroy us.

Satyajit Ji is a Mechanical Machine God .TRUTH COMES FROM GOD

With reference to Satyajit Ji comments regarding Pastor Dr. David (Rl) Hawkins and his machine and truth. These Phd's with their scientific experiements are all Untruthful people, there are so many people who are put in the electric chair and are killed because of these experiements.... Truth comes from God and not any machine made by man. Please read Sri Guru Grant Sahib Ji , and do not try to experiment with the writings of our Gurus or the Bible and Koran . I am really shocked and dissapointed that as a Sikh you made such mundane statement. Please keep mundane science in the Lab, thats where it belongs ,Tomorrow you may have to change your name on the Internet and write other articles, This very article questions the validity as to who you really are. And then in one of your articles you talk about love and compassion for Homosexuals and Lesbians, and tries to use Sri Guru Grant Sahib Ji to justify your point. Veer Ji I am sorry if I may have offended you or any of my brothers and sisters with share your view, I ask Guru Ji to forgive me and have compassion on me, but I do not want any Priest or Granthi sitting behind Sri Guru Grant Sahib Ji. who indulges in sinful activities , you are free to come to Gurdwara, but you should not enjoy the freedom as those who are fixed in the pure teachings of Sri Guru Grant Sahib Ji. To conclude Jesus Christ taught pure love of his father in heaven, similay to our Gurus , but I have problems accepting him as Wahaguru Ji . I know of Sikhs who are inspired by the teachings of T.M. Guru Maharashi Mahesh Yogi, who was a covered atheist whose followers focus on the brain waves, but when people get into a coma there is practically no activities of the brain but yet they are still alive, Just how do these scientists explains consciousness , Gurbani teaches that this is their Karma , but the foolish doctors kill them upon the advise of their families who are influenced by these classes of PHd's , and so they kill them by pulling the plug , thereby incurring more karma. PLEASE KEEP THE SCIENTISTS IN THE LAB. MATTER ANS SPIRIT ARE TWO DIFFERENT ENTITIES KEEP THEM SEPARATE OTHERWISE YOU WILL BECOME A FIRST CALL SHIVITEE HINDU SCIENTIST.

Jimmy Carter

Dr David R Hawkins M.D. Ph.D is an Enlightened being. He practiced psychiatry for 50 years in New York. He had spiritual experiences beginning in childhood, but couldn't make any sense of them. He saw this technique of muscle testing first used by Dr John Diamond and instantly saw the potential in it and thus did an extensive study and thus wrote his conclusion in his first book, "Power vs Force". On the current issue of Jimmy Carter separating from church was inevitable because Christian churches are operating on a low levels of consciousness and they are not following the true teaching that were taught by Jesus. Dr Hawkins explains reasons for this and clearly outlines the limitations of mind on a consciousness scale. His extensive study brought forth different levels of consciousness people operate at, and therefore creating a Map of Consciousness. Jimmy Carter's leaving the church is understandable clearly because he calibrates much higher than the church leader on the Map of Consciousness. On higher levels of consciousness even the idea that women and men not being equal is ridiculous.

The Bottom Line is that God is a Person and he is Not Jesus.

Jesus said "My father who are in heaven (Holly) or Wahaguru Ji is HIS name, but the christians wants to tell you that Jesus is Wahaguru Ji, You must understand Christian propaganda, Sikhs are into transforming people lives not converting them through deception, as some muslims and fanatic hindus are doing making people Godless, Jesus the lamb was a loving compassionate and pure person, he was the son of God and not God himself as christians missionaries would have you believe . This is the real conclusion. President Carter is beginning to realize that the true teachings dates back long before the birth of Jesus Christ, there is no record of Jesus between the age of about 13 thru 31, (Where was He?) He died at age 33 , he only preached for 2 years, He had brothers and one sister. Where could Jesus have learnt about peace and compassion? It certainly was not Egypt. Our Christian brothers needs to open their eyes and see whats in their heart, Jimmy carter was just "TRUTHFUL" and spoke part of the truth. I wish the Reverend Dr Billy Graham will follow suite. America is so powerful and blessed that she can transform the world with the knowledge of the Absolute Truth, and I truly believe that India and America will work together in the future to save the world from catastrophy, India is a poor country economically, but she has an abundance of Transcendental knowledge which the world needs. India and America are the only two countries which can save the planet. 99% of Indians have no knowledge what wealth of knowledge comes out of India . In stead they make between 1100-1200 movies per year which is all about how to increase they sex power. (Kaam)

K.J. Singh ji You asked a

K.J. Singh ji You asked a question in your last post...where did Jesus learn about peace and compassion... Jesus the child would have learned about compassion from his family as they taught him the writings of the Torah, or Jewish law which is full of instances of God showing compassion to His people. Jesus, the Son of God, the Word who was with God in the very beginning and through whom all things were made... Aad vich shabd see, atay shabd parmeshur de nal see, atay parmeshur see. Ihyo aad vich parmeshur de nal see. Subh cheeza ohde rahi banaea, cheeza vichon ek cheez bhee us ton bina nahi banaee gae... Jesus would have been the very exemplification of peace and compassion because without Him neither peace nor compassion would exist. Jesus has always been and there is no Truth apart from Him. President Carter is following the teachings of the Lord Jesus and spurning the teachings of man in this decision. All men are susceptible to fall prey to the temptation to live by the flesh and not by the spirit, making rules in the name of God that only serve to sadden God and oppress His creation. God created men and women in His image...therefore, yes we should treat each other as equals, without reference to gender, religion, caste, or creed. Guru Nanak Dev ji was quite correct to make emphasis on this point and India owes a great debt to this great teaching made popular in India by Guru Nanak Dev ji...if only it were followed more closely by all of us who call ourselves followers of the Guru. You are correct in saying that Jesus was the Son of God (He also 'is' the Son of God), however be careful to not so quickly dismiss Jesus as not being God. The path to Truth and Life Jesus offers is the answer to the problem that lies inside the heart of each and every one of us. It is only through this living water that the world has any chance of being freed from the bondage of greed, lust, hate, poverty, and injustice that our world so desperately needs. Seek first the Truth and follow it in the way of righteousness...

Jesus was a man of God just

Jesus was a man of God just like Krishna, Muhammad, and Great Guru's of Sikh faith . The truth of Jesus is verifiable readily replicable by anyone via muscle test. In a few years of period that he preached he set up an enormous attractor pattern of highest spiritual realm that after 2000 years his teachings has transformational effect on people lives and whoever follows them. Muscle test also calibrated Bible. I don't know the details but its all there in Dr David R Hawkins books. Muscle test has verified also that the sameness of soul in both women and men. Each soul is born in as a women or men according to Karma and according to what suits best for that soul to benefit from this human birth. Fascinating study of Dr Hawkins had blessed whole mankind. Because of his contribution, muscle test now has clarified some of very debilitating issues. Like Guru has told us to surrender to Naam because mind is blind and incapable of telling truth from falsehood.

Thank you, Mr. Carter!

To me, it does not matter who wrote, or did not write, the Bible. The truth is, as Mr. Carter has written, that scriptures have been "twisted and distorted". They have been interpreted to support just about any line of thinking. Sadly, most of the interpretations have been to keep women down, to support slavery, superiority of one religion over others, and the devastation of our planet. Not only have scriptures in the Bible been used for these purposes, but scriptures in other belief systems as well. As a Sikh and a woman, my main interest lies in the way the Sikh scriptures are interpreted, of course; although the interpretation of Christian scripture tends to shape life and politics here in the USA...even though there is supposed to be separation of church and state! I live in the "Bible Belt" of the USA, and I know that the Southern Baptist Convention is a power to be reckoned with here and too many times what they say, goes. I applaud you, Mr. Jimmy Carter, for your courage to speak your truth, even though I know it is not a popular view. I thank you, on behalf of all women everywhere. This gives me hope and courage.

NO BODY KNOWS WHO WROTE THE BIBLE , IT WAS NOT MOSES OR JESUS

Equality for white women in America is seen as political, The Churches neglected the poor Christian black man and woman for centuries. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton a woman would have been President, but the Powerful 100 million Christian Conservatives which comprises of the Predominately Mighty Baptist establishment hated Bill Clinton and saw Hillary as a liberal woman who support Gays and did not support her. Barrack Obama would have NEVER been President has it not been for the MISTAKES OF President Bush , Barack Hussein Obama was the ideal candidate, and so the powerful establishment in America rejected McCain and instead elected President Obama. It was a good choice it healed some old wounds in the black and Muslim community around the world . Always remember Americans will fight with each other and when the fight is over they will sit down and have a cup of coffee together, and I truly admire them for this, they may call it a two party political system but really it is one.-Patroitic Americans not to be confused with RSS/Hindu-Nationalism ) With regards to equality for women in the world . Mr Carter probably have read the Vedic Literatures the Puranas -Vaishnava teachings and learned that 2 million Years ago in India there existed an Arian civilization and their literatures were Vedic, the mother of Monotheism which was the perfect teachings and was destroyed by fallen Brahmins and is currently being preserved in Sikhism. In the ancient Vedic culture women were glorified on the level of Godesses, today Hindus demons burn women for dowry, which is unherd of in the Sikh faith. The Hare Krishna's knows this very well because they are the largest distributors of Vedic Literatures in the English language, across the world, (www.ISKCON.com) or www. Purebhakti.tv these literatures reveals women in India as Godesses for example .Goddess Saraswatti,and Brahma , Goddess Parbati and Shiva and the list goes on, but atheist Hindu brahmins destroyed the purity of the Vedic culture and is today attempting to destroy Sikhism by introducing "Hindu Equality for Sikh Women". Its called Hindu women Liberation and as a result some of the hindu teenage girls in big cities like Delhi and Bombay are becomming Lesbians as they do in fallen Christian nations, The concept of love and respect between male and female in the service of Sri Rama and Sita Ji goes back 2 million years ago in India, (The Epic Ramayana) and The pastimes of Blue cowherd boy Krishna and Radha Rani in the groves of Brindaban some 5000 years ago, Our Sikh gurus being versed in the Puranas and the Sanskrit language knew this, and preserved this aspect of Vedic culture in the Sikh way of life, The first problem with the Bible in that the ORIGINAL bible states "MY father who are in heaven holy is his name " but the Catholic Church changed it about 500 years ago during the renouissore to "OUR†father who art in Heaven, there is a big difference, " The word "My" includes EVERY ONE including Jesus , We all children of the One father according to the original bible, these records are preserved in the Vatican ,Yet tthe churches continue to preach.. No one cometh to the father but through Jesus Christ , because they see Jesus is the Father (Wahaguru Ji) Jesus is the son (Jesus the person) and Jesus as the Holy ghost (Paramatma in the heart) This is what President Carter needs to work with his powerful southern Baptist brothers and recognise the Monotheistic teachings of India, this will resolve equality for everyone including the animals , Christians do not see animals as divine creatures but Vedic teachings do. I know for a fact that they are experimenting with new born cow urine for medicinal purpose in America. Something which the average conservative christian may condem because such things are associated with Godless Hindus. We must also remember Jesus was a brown Skin man and spoke Aramaic and Greek , the King James version of the Bible was written in a language which Jesus did not speak. I am not against my Christian brothers, I went to a christian school, but I question the many versions of the Christian faith. God bless you President Carter I respect and love you. In the words of former CBS Television anchor man he said and I quote "Jimmy Carter was the most intelligent person he ever interviewed ..Mr .Walter Croncrite who passed away recently this month he was 93.

>>>NO BODY KNOWS WHO WROTE

>>>NO BODY KNOWS WHO WROTE THE BIBLE , IT WAS NOT MOSES OR JESUS<<<

As a non-Christian, why does it matter who wrote Bible? Why would it matter if Jesus or Moses wrote it? Would it matter because you assume that Jesus and Moses had The Word of The Lord? If so, why do you assume that they had The Word of The Lord? Is there any way to confirm or prove it that they had The Word of The Lord?

There is a way to tell the

There is a way to tell the difference between truth and falsehood now. It is called muscle testing in behavioral kinesiology. It is verified by hundreds of thousands of tests that every action of everyone is recorded in the vast collective consciousness, and is now accessible to us. Our body's protoplasm instantly reacted to truthfulness of any statement or image kept in mind. The human body goes strong in presence of truth and weak in absence of truth. Same result are replicable by anyone even if the person doesn't have any knowledge about the subject. The holy Bible along with other holy scriptures of the world has been verified thoroughly by Dr David R Hawkins in his study. The truthfulness of holy scriptures calibrate in the realm of Enlightenment, the highest spirituality realms achievable in this physical world of ours.

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