Is masterbution a sin?

Discussion of life's dilemmas, blessings and challenges. Got Questions? Need Answers? This is the place to be. Feel comfortable with asking any question. Anonymous posting is allowed. Questions are answered by anyone in the sangat who feels they can help.

Re: Is masterbution a sin?

Postby Gurjant Singh » Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:01 pm

Sat Sri Akal,
Is masturbation a sin? That is an interesting subject to talk about. I will write about it and in the end I will draw the conclusion.

Prior to you belong to any religion, you are a human being. You have your human senses to satisfy.
Guru ji himself said this
ਇਸੁ ਤਨ ਮਨ ਮਧੇ ਮਦਨ ਚੋਰ ॥
There is a thief in human mind.

Guru jee have known about this chor. But what is the real chor here?
Urge to having sex is not different to eat food. Sex is something without which all human or animal race wouldn't exist.
A male when it hits puberty, In perfect world he should have a sexual partner then which should last till the couple gets old enough to loose sexual urges. However this is not the perfect world we live in.
Total honesty - I have tried myself to control sexual urges, I lasted 7 days I was just not even watching any women on YouTube videos. Total avoidance. And then on 8th day, I had sexually charged dream which I didn't like, and I ejaculated in my dream.
This is something which I have tries few times. The dream I had was sexual in nature. The more you elongate the urge, the horrible the dream got.
Over these practical kind of experiments, and these conclusions made me think is it good to have illicit dream or is it good to watch women with less cloths and get over it. You guys draw the conclusion, for me I would get over it watching something.

Keep in mind that different people have different sexual orientations (Gays and Lesbians) those people are also creations of Guru jee.

HOWEVER !!, Your must always be seeking a partner for yourself. Which should originate out of love and not lust. In the mean time you can relieve yourself.
NEVER EVER do thought abuse - I will be clear and open here. Thinking about FORBIDDEN thoughts or Looking at someones's women, and other thoughts which are not accepted in society is WRONG. That is the real CHOOR.
Watching normal porn as if they are performing for you. They are actors. again remember about though abuse and choose your categories thoughtfully.
If anyone here believes that they never had to ejaculate in dreams, that is something which for human race is not possible.
Above all what I wrote is my personal view.

This is my take on this.
wjkkwjkf
Gurjant Singh
New User
 
Posts: 1
Joined: Sat Apr 27, 2019 6:26 pm

Re: Is masterbution a sin?

Postby JeejaJi » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:47 pm

Gurjant Singh wrote:Sat Sri Akal,
Is masturbation a sin? That is an interesting subject to talk about. I will write about it and in the end I will draw the conclusion.

Prior to you belong to any religion, you are a human being. You have your human senses to satisfy.
Guru ji himself said this
ਇਸੁ ਤਨ ਮਨ ਮਧੇ ਮਦਨ ਚੋਰ ॥
There is a thief in human mind.

Guru jee have known about this chor. But what is the real chor here?
Urge to having sex is not different to eat food. Sex is something without which all human or animal race wouldn't exist.
A male when it hits puberty, In perfect world he should have a sexual partner then which should last till the couple gets old enough to loose sexual urges. However this is not the perfect world we live in.
Total honesty - I have tried myself to control sexual urges, I lasted 7 days I was just not even watching any women on YouTube videos. Total avoidance. And then on 8th day, I had sexually charged dream which I didn't like, and I ejaculated in my dream.
This is something which I have tries few times. The dream I had was sexual in nature. The more you elongate the urge, the horrible the dream got.
Over these practical kind of experiments, and these conclusions made me think is it good to have illicit dream or is it good to watch women with less cloths and get over it. You guys draw the conclusion, for me I would get over it watching something.

Keep in mind that different people have different sexual orientations (Gays and Lesbians) those people are also creations of Guru jee.

HOWEVER !!, Your must always be seeking a partner for yourself. Which should originate out of love and not lust. In the mean time you can relieve yourself.
NEVER EVER do thought abuse - I will be clear and open here. Thinking about FORBIDDEN thoughts or Looking at someones's women, and other thoughts which are not accepted in society is WRONG. That is the real CHOOR.
Watching normal porn as if they are performing for you. They are actors. again remember about though abuse and choose your categories thoughtfully.
If anyone here believes that they never had to ejaculate in dreams, that is something which for human race is not possible.
Above all what I wrote is my personal view.

This is my take on this.
wjkkwjkf


I’m confused by what you are trying to say. You had a dream and came on the 8th day due to sexual dreams. But your are saying that watching porn is wrong? Why? What is the difference in dreaming up something versus watching? If Becky next door is with dreaming about and somehow ok why not her lookalike in a professionally videographer movie?
JeejaJi
New User
 
Posts: 27
Joined: Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:29 am

Re: Is masterbution a sin?

Postby Guest » Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:17 am

In answer to this question, it is simply YES.

Masturabation is a sin in Sikhism. It is one of the 5 thieves of Sikhism along with greed, attachment, anger and entitlement.
Instead you should try and channel this urge inside of you towards the Guru Sahib.

My advice to you is to try and find a way to stop yourself from doing this. Trust in the Guru Sahib. The Guru Sahib will guide you onto the right path.
It is a fight to keep yourself away from these worldly goods because we are human at the end of the day. But you have to realise that nasturbation will. It give you the satisfaction in the long term unlike worshipping on the name of Waheguru.
Parjis and Penjis, try and find peace. Worship the name of Waheguru. Do not let these desires take over. Every day is a fight to prevent yourself from giving into these small temp stations. But try to find it within yourself the desire for try inner peace. Be closer to Waheguru.

Ask the Guru Sahibfor help if you struggle. Ask for forgiveness, ask to be repented of your sins and ask to be helped to never give into these temptations again
Surrender yourself to the Guru Sahib and you will find the help and inner peace you need.

The satisfaction that you get from masturbation is simply due to the serotonin and dopamine levels increasing in the brain and giving you the sense of euphoria. But at the end of the day, you have to realise that this short term effect is nothing compared to the ever-lasting love from the Guru Sahib. Nothing will ever compare to that.
It is similar to taking drugs. You feel your body depends on it. But you must find a way to wood the temptations. If you ever feel as if you are going to give in, stop for a few seconds and think about the alternatives to channel this urge inside of you. Masturbation isn’t a solution but is just an easy way out. It is very easy to give into temptation but you must find it within yourselves to stop yourself and avoid this. Channel this urge to something more beneficial.

A quote from the Shri Guru Granth Sahih states:

Day and night, you are engrossed in sexual desire, O my merchant friend, and your consciousness is blind to the Naam.


And also

The Lord's Name is not within your heart, but all sorts of other tastes seem sweet to you

Keep in mind that the Guru Sahib loves us all. He will help us as long as we ask for it and strive to never give into these thieves. Trust in the name of the Guru Sahib
These quotes are essentially saying that masturabation makes you further away from the Guru Sahib. That you are too attached to these worldly temptations which makes us further away from finding inner peace.
I urge you all to find this peace. Do Ardaas every day. Worship the Guru Sahib. We aren’t perfect. We will make mistakes and it will be difficult from stopping yourself giving into these temptations. But please try and find away to repel yourselves away from that.

I hope that this has helped you all. All the best of luck

WJKK WJKF
User avatar
Guest
 

Re: Is masterbution a sin?

Postby Guest » Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:19 pm

I agree with KamaljeetKaur's comments. Those sexual sins! Including sexual abuse to anyone else no matter what gender.
Also, its great you posted about this as many people are too ashamed to do so in our community. Do not confuse our culture with our religion. Sexual health is important!

I think masterbation is not a sin. It's our body. God created us and gave us sexual needs. Masterbation is a safe way to release those needs.
User avatar
Guest
 

Re: Is masterbution a sin?

Postby Guest » Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:27 am

Unfortunately, I disagree with this comment.
Whilst we all have sexual needs, we must find a way to channel our sexual desires into something else. Consider doing exercise, meditation or something you enjoy.
Masturbation is not the answer and you must realise that doing it is giving into to one of the 5 thieves of Sikhism.
It may be difficult to begin with but is 100% possible.
Every day is a battle against the worldly desires we have and it is understandable that we have a desire to give into temptation because as I have said previously we are only human and we experience such feelings
But we must remember the sacrifices the Guru Jis made for us. We must show resilience by making this sacrifice.
Masturbation does not give any long term benefits.
Meditating on Waheguru, doing Ardaas and resisting this temptation is what all Sikhs must do. This is the how we can be filled with contentment and happiness

WJKK WJKF
User avatar
Guest
 

Re: Is masterbution a sin?

Postby 1jyot2moorti » Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:30 am

KamaljitSingh wrote:The following are the sex related sins as per my perception.
--A boy outrages the modesty of a girl.
--A boy has sex with a girl and refuses to own the responsibility later on.
--A boy deceives and causes a breach of trust by eloping with a girl where he could have stood honestly and put up a proposal thereby causing pain to so many people.
--A boy starts an affair with a married woman.
--A married person having an affair outside his marriage.
--Having sex by force(rape)
The other sexual activites can come under regular wear and tear.
Now if a person takes a lighted match stick near a can of petrol,it might not always cause a blast.Similarly a person watching porn might not always commit sex related crimes(sin)but he is deliberately increasing the chances.Similarly self control is good but what if a person is tempted to commit a rape by avoiding masturbation?Hope your questions are answered.


BOY, go by this!
This is the best answer you could have got.

My 2 bit.
Do it, if you will, with the dream of that one woman you would want in your life.
And when she comes along, QUIT .... love her like no man ever would.
We have been ordained to live our lives in a SAHEJ fashion, go with the flow ....
Then again, do remember: "Those who truly love, alone find God - Guru Gobind Singh"
1jyot2moorti
New User
 
Posts: 20
Joined: Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:37 am

Previous

Return to Questions and Answers

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests