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Prakash and Sukhasan

Postby pssekhon » Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:07 pm

What is the purpose of prakash and sukhasun with Guru Granth Sahib? This seems to be more of a ritual to me… please explain.
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Re: Prakash and Sukhasan

Postby jaslin » Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:55 am

It's just the way we wake up in the moring and go to bed at night.
in the same way "guru granth shahibji" is wokedup every morning and then taken to sleep at night.
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Re: Prakash and Sukhasan

Postby sikhology » Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:35 pm

The Guru never sleeps, so to assume that Prakaash and Sukhaasan have to do with putting the Guru Granth Sahib ji to 'sleep' is missing the point. It's about respect; prakaash literally means 'light' or 'illumination' and, we begin our day by opening the source of our spiritual illumination as respectfully as possible, and as a sign of respect, we close the Guru Granth Sahib ji with just as much love as in the morning.
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Re: Prakash and Sukhasan

Postby Serjinder Singh » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:57 pm

Waheguru ji ka khalsa
Waheguru ji ki fateh

Jaslin wrote:
It's just the way we wake up in the moring and go to bed at night.
in the same way "guru granth shahibji" is wokedup every morning and then taken to sleep at night.


Guru Granth Sahib ji's Parkash should not be taken as a ritual. It should be considered just a sign of our respectful care of the legacy of Gur Sabad or Gurbani bequeathed to the world. Otherewise there is no such thing as waking up Satguru ji or making Guru ji to go to sleep. Gurbani does not accept such notions. Gurbani says,

SGGS page 479

ਭੂਲੀ ਮਾਲਨੀ ਹੈ ਏਉ ॥ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਜਾਗਤਾ ਹੈ ਦੇਉ ॥੧॥
Bhooli Malini hai eyo. Satgur jagta hai deo.
The worshipper with flowers ( preparing to wake up the deity) is misguided. The True Guru as the deity is ever awake.

SGGS page 592
ਮਃ ੩ ॥ ਇਕੋ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਜਾਗਤਾ ਹੋਰੁ ਜਗੁ ਸੂਤਾ ਮੋਹਿ ਪਿਆਸਿ ॥
Mahala 3. iko satgur jagta hor jag sootha moh piaas.

Thirg Guru ji says, Only the Satgur stays awake (all the time). The rest of the world is fast asleep slumbering afflicted with attachments to worldly things and desires.

What we have to be careful about is that our respect for the legacy of Gurbani does not become like the worship of Hindu deities where the stone ideal is woken up early in the morning by ringing the metal bell and then is bathed and perfumed up with incense burning and decorating with flowers etc.

In some sikh sects such things are happening more than other sikhs. For instance, in Nanaksar Thaths (followers don't say Gurdwaras but Thaath) Guru Granth Sahib ji is either fanned manually with a hand fan as well as provided with an air conditioner or electric fan during the night as well as day. In winter Guru Granth Sahib ji is wrapped up in a quilt to keep warm.

Sant Baba Nand Singh ji, the founder of this sect used to take bir of SGGS on his head outside and walking in winter mornings, of course respectfully, to warm up Guru ji in the sun in days when all modern electric heating facilities were not available.

A picture of Guru Nanak Dev ji is placed in the halls near the ceiling atop the place where SGGS ji is parkashed. This is supposed to be a copy of the painting that was painted by an artist at the request of Sant Baba Nand Singh ji who claimed that he saw Guru Nanak Dev ji during meditation and guided the artist to paint according to Sant ji's directions so that it had a likeness of what Sant ji had seen.

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Re: Prakash and Sukhasan

Postby Nihal Singh Kanakpuria » Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:31 am

Serjinder Singh Ji,

Apologies, there are somethings i don't agree with, but that's purely from a preservation perspective.

I recently watched a documentary where they showed a library in Britain where books were being maintained in No Oxygen controlled environment, the rationale to do this (by a scientific community was to preserve the books), Now we all know with the current technology the library books can be digitally stored, can be reproduced etc, surprisingly these weren't even original works , some of them were just copies of some books in a library.

If the scientific community with so much of technology on hand can do so much, then is it fair to question sikh community on SGGS preservation endeavor esp since they respects SGGS 's shabad's as their Guru ji's spoken words ?


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Re: Prakash and Sukhasan

Postby Serjinder Singh » Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:21 am

Waheguru ji ka khalsa
Waheguru ji ki fateh

If the scientific community with so much of technology on hand can do so much, then is it fair to question sikh community on SGGS preservation endeavor esp since they respects SGGS 's shabad's as their Guru ji's spoken words ?


Nihal Singh Kankanpuria ji

The example I gave has not much to do with preservation of the scripture Guru Granth Sahib ji. This is to consider it physically in same light as Hindu worshippers consider the stone idol of a deity that is prone to winter chill and summer heat. This is taking the pharase "Pargat Guran ki Deh" too far in the direction of Hindu worship.

We worship Guru Granth Sahib ji for the presence of Gurbani in it as the Gurus left preserved in it for us. We don't worship the paper per se or the ink used to write or print. We consider it as the body of our Guru ji that we can listen to like a living person when we take a Vaak or listen to the Gurbani in it being read out from. The 'Guran ki Deh' does not mean this Deh needs 'Bhog launa' to avoid hunger or waking up or needing sleep after a hectic day.

For that matter, there is no notion of using fans and quilts to preserve the scripture but considering it as an idol. In fact, when the Granths such as Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji or the Gutkas and manuscripts become very old and acutely need the scientific and technological techniques to preserve these many sects and even normal Gurdwaras irresponsibly either do the SASKAR by burning these or simply do the Jal Parwah in a river of flowing water.

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Re: Prakash and Sukhasan

Postby swarn bains » Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:31 pm

in no bad terms to anyone. but i noticed the painted picture of baba Nanak; in that the picture it appears that baba jee is wearing three malas. one on the head, next around the neck and the third in the hand. This is exactly the previous older systems of worship were preaching and Nanak sahib rejected it. I wonder how real that picture of baba Nanak is. comments
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